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| The Speculator:
I think that when we appoint our next head coach - whenever that might be - our directors first need to acknowledge the sheer scale of the task, and understand the experience and strength of character required to tackle it. It's a job that breaks coaches. Instead of pretending that we are still a big player in Super League, the directors need to be completely open and honest about the inherent problems facing this club, and appoint a coach who can put forward a convincing, detailed strategy for meeting those challenges. Stop being starstruck by big names, stop looking for quick fixes, stop thinking that social media clicks are more important than turnstile clicks. I usually try to remain level-headed and optimistic about Wire, but it is pretty difficult to be that way at the moment. I am genuinely worried about the future of the club, because I sense we are approaching a tipping point where a lot of long-time fans have just about had enough and are drifting away in disillusionment. I'm not talking about the usual "that's it, I've had it with Wire" that comes in the heat of the moment after most bad defeats. I am referring to that sad realisation, when game day comes around, that you'd probably rather do something else with your time than watch Wire and be let down again. That's when it gets serious. I think there was a cautious sense of optimism when Burgess took over, but here we are again, down among the deadbeats and with uncertainty and rumours abounding. As for easyWire's question, I would say that McNamara is a coach of the right calibre and experience, so I wouldn't be upset if he was 'next man up', as Burgess used to say. But whoever it is, we really need to get the appointment right this time. The consequences of botching it again don't bear thinking about.
Good post. The trouble is the board have gone on record to say they now demand more involvement in RL matters following Powell's exit. I reckon this is half the problem, together with some key positions in the club being filled by people who are clearly out of their depth. In hindsight, we should have probably backed Powell to the hilt instead of turning on him. He was up against this dysfunctional board and sulking players. He didn't help himself mind.
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| Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:
You need to follow the lead of leeds and Hull who have both appointed experienced NRL coaches but also new DOR's who actually know what they're doing recruitment wise, and then let them get on with their jobs with no interference - easy at Hull where the owner is the father in law of the DOR (although now CEO but still doing the DOR job).
No surprise both clubs are on an upward trajectory.
Appointing burgess was always going to be a big gamble, which rarely pay off
it didn't take an awful lot to get hull better than last year, and they're not without their issues by any means, and very similar with arthur, whilst Leeds whilst improved are still liable to bloody awful perfomances/results, and they've had the same thing with arthur potentially with one foot out the door, either staying on after he was originally appointed and also with the perth job. The point is both are improving whilst you're getting worse des0ite spending lots of money ey year in, year out. Hull have gone from terrible to ok in a season so I'm confident they will c9ntinue to i,prove in the next year or two. Wire seem to have no real recruitment strategy in place
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| Jake the Peg:Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:
You need to follow the lead of leeds and Hull who have both appointed experienced NRL coaches but also new DOR's who actually know what they're doing recruitment wise, and then let them get on with their jobs with no interference - easy at Hull where the owner is the father in law of the DOR (although now CEO but still doing the DOR job).
No surprise both clubs are on an upward trajectory.
Appointing burgess was always going to be a big gamble, which rarely pay off
it didn't take an awful lot to get hull better than last year, and they're not without their issues by any means, and very similar with arthur, whilst Leeds whilst improved are still liable to bloody awful perfomances/results, and they've had the same thing with arthur potentially with one foot out the door, either staying on after he was originally appointed and also with the perth job. The point is both are improving whilst you're getting worse des0ite spending lots of money ey year in, year out. Hull have gone from terrible to ok in a season so I'm confident they will c9ntinue to i,prove in the next year or two. Wire seem to have no real recruitment strategy in place And my point is, you're not as improved as we were last year under a new (rookie coach) come back to me in 18 months
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| Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:
You need to follow the lead of leeds and Hull who have both appointed experienced NRL coaches but also new DOR's who actually know what they're doing recruitment wise, and then let them get on with their jobs with no interference - easy at Hull where the owner is the father in law of the DOR (although now CEO but still doing the DOR job).
No surprise both clubs are on an upward trajectory.
Appointing burgess was always going to be a big gamble, which rarely pay off
it didn't take an awful lot to get hull better than last year, and they're not without their issues by any means, and very similar with arthur, whilst Leeds whilst improved are still liable to bloody awful perfomances/results, and they've had the same thing with arthur potentially with one foot out the door, either staying on after he was originally appointed and also with the perth job. The point is both are improving whilst you're getting worse des0ite spending lots of money ey year in, year out. Hull have gone from terrible to ok in a season so I'm confident they will c9ntinue to i,prove in the next year or two. Wire seem to have no real recruitment strategy in place And my point is, you're not as improved as we were last year under a new (rookie coach) come back to me in 18 months 2023 Wire 6th 2024 Wire 3rd with play off win 2024 Hull 11th 2025 Hull 6th If Hull remain where they are then they will have jumped 5 places in the league, as opposed to our 3. But Wire made a CC Final. I guess it's how you measure it, will be close if they manage a playoff win. However, we went from 11th in 2022 to 6th in 2023 and we all know how that ended up.
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| Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:Fantastic Mr Cat:Jake the Peg:
You need to follow the lead of leeds and Hull who have both appointed experienced NRL coaches but also new DOR's who actually know what they're doing recruitment wise, and then let them get on with their jobs with no interference - easy at Hull where the owner is the father in law of the DOR (although now CEO but still doing the DOR job).
No surprise both clubs are on an upward trajectory.
Appointing burgess was always going to be a big gamble, which rarely pay off
it didn't take an awful lot to get hull better than last year, and they're not without their issues by any means, and very similar with arthur, whilst Leeds whilst improved are still liable to bloody awful perfomances/results, and they've had the same thing with arthur potentially with one foot out the door, either staying on after he was originally appointed and also with the perth job. The point is both are improving whilst you're getting worse des0ite spending lots of money ey year in, year out. Hull have gone from terrible to ok in a season so I'm confident they will c9ntinue to i,prove in the next year or two. Wire seem to have no real recruitment strategy in place And my point is, you're not as improved as we were last year under a new (rookie coach) come back to me in 18 months True but that was last year..in the present they're both above us.which shows what can be done...as far as we are concerned it's not going to get better next year or the years ahead
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