For Wigan

SL finish: 1st

Play off performance: Win the final

CC performance: Win the Challenge Cup

Overated player: Lee Mossop

Underated player: Darrell Goulding

Most improved: Paul Prescott

Least improved: Karl Pryce

Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman

Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Joe Mellor



For Super league:

Winners: Wigan

Most improved team: Bradford

Least improved team: Wakefield

Overated player: Kris Welham

Underated player: Andy Lynch

Best signing: Ryan Hoffman

Worst signing: Phil Bailey

Losing a franchise: Wakefield

Gaining a franchise: Widnes

For Wigan

SL finish:1st

Play off performance:At least reach the Final possibly win again

CC performance:Final

Overated player:Tomkins (hes amazing but he is still overrated somehow haha)

Underated playericon_razz.gifryce (as per)

Most improved:I expect Mickey Mac

Least improvedicon_razz.gifat (can't really improve can he?)

Signing to watch:Finch because im interested to see what he gives us in the halves

Rookie to watch (10 games or less):I want to see the new Tomkins but I expect Charnley will be the one to watch



For Super league:

Winners: Wigan!



Most improved team: Bradford

Least improved team: Dire

Overated player: Briers!

Underated player: Lockers

Best signing: Monaghan (gonna bring so much comedy next season haha)

Worst signing: Monaghan (hes gonna get absolutely destroyed)

Losing a franchise: Wakey and Crusaders

Gaining a franchise: Widnes and Halifax

For Wigan

SL finish: 1st

Play off performance: Grand Final Win

CC performance: Finalists & Winners

Overated player: Lee Mossop (At this moment in time, I feel if we can get a fully fit season out of him, my opinion would change)

Underated player: Paul Deacon.

Most improved: Mickey McIlorum

Least improved: Pat Richards - He cant get much better can he?



Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman

Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Josh Charnley



For Super league:

Winners: Wigan

Most improved team: The Bulls

Least improved team: Leeds

Overated player: Paul Wellens

Underated player: Rangi Chase

Best signing: Matt Diskin to Bradford - Just what they need IMO.

Worst signing: Richie Mathers to Cas

Losing a franchise: Wakey

Gaining a franchise: Widnes

If you want an unbiased opinion pop into your local bookies.

Well put jinkin.



Was looking at the odds at the weekend.



6/4 to win SL

6/4 to win CC



Very stingy odds indeed. Bookies seem to be even more confident than us.

The bookies had the rhinos out of sight this time last year.



I see the pies finishing 3rd or 4th. Then anything can happen in the play off's. Who's in form,who's fit, long term injuries to key players. It might come down to the bounce of a ball. but this season is a whole new beast for you pies.



The champions get it tougher week in week out than anyone else.



Every team has a years worth of video to copy the winning style and to try and stop it.



The refs have a year of video to see what new tricks the coaches have brought in and to shut it down( you wernt the most penalised team for nothing)



You arnt the surprise package anymore



All the expection is on you then wire.



Leeds and saints will be hurting and hungry and out of the spot light, hudds even more so who are a real threat.



You have the distraction of the world club and your star players will not have had the full preseason due to the amount of lads playing international rl



I appreciate wigan were deserved champs last year. I dont know if you will win it again or not? But the task is so much bigger than last season for sure.

We will still win it!

If we are good enough we'll win it, if we're not we won't.

We won't use injuries, WCC or players on tour as an excuse.

The big difference between Wigan next season and Leeds after their last win is the fact Wigan will have a considerably stronger squad going in to it, compared to the GF winning team. Not only do we have the three Melbourne players coming in, but we'll also have people like Roberts, Mossop, and Hock back competing for places as well. Leeds didn't have this improvement going into the start of 2010 from the end of 2009.



If it took other SL teams and coaches a whole year to work out how we play, things are much worse in SL than even I thought.

Maybe the Rugby Gods?

Worst value odds ever.



Best prices on Wigan this season:



GF: 9/4 - Skybet

Shield: 7/4 - Skybet

CC: 7/2 - Bet365

Apologies, got confused, my odds were from Betfair, and I have just rechecked them. CC odds were unavailable.



Odds on betfair are 2.54 (just over 6/4) and to 2.58 to win the GF and league leaders not CC.