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| Quote wire2004="wire2004"didn't we win the try count yesterday. Lets bring that positive up...'"
Alas, no. It was 6 tries all. It's was Briers' uncharacteristically woeful kicking in the 1st half that cost you the game. As much as I don't like the man, I always respect his kicking ability and that was a poor showing from him in that department yesterday.
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| three quaters of a season doesn't make you one of the big 4, stay there for a couple of years (this one first) and then you can make that claim.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"three quaters of a season doesn't make you one of the big 4, stay there for a couple of years (this one first) and then you can make that claim.'"
Have to agree tbf. One good season doesn't make you a permanent top 4 club. This season certainly no one can argue that you are definitely a top 2 club never mind top 4. Your previous inconsistent seasons mean that, like a previous post, you are only guests in the 'top 4'.
Traditionally the top 4 of Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Bradford has certainly changed. No one can argue that Leeds and Saints are still in that bracket and Bradford have dropped out due to their woeful past couple of seasons. Wigan, despite being as inconsistent as yourselves over the past few years are still there due to the past successes at the club. Now you might think "Oh arrogant Wigan fan talking about the past", but taking a step back, you have to admit that past reputations are hard to shake off.
If Wire finish in the top 4 consistently for the next few years and make significant inroads in the playoffs then they will have taken Bradford's place in that traditional 'top 4' club. Under Tony Smith I personally don't think that that will be a problem.
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| Quote Scouse Pie2="Scouse Pie2"Have to agree tbf. One good season doesn't make you a permanent top 4 club. This season certainly no one can argue that you are definitely a top 2 club never mind top 4. Your previous inconsistent seasons mean that, like a previous post, you are only guests in the 'top 4'.
Traditionally the top 4 of Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Bradford has certainly changed. No one can argue that Leeds and Saints are still in that bracket and Bradford have dropped out due to their woeful past couple of seasons. Wigan, despite being as inconsistent as yourselves over the past few years are still there due to the past successes at the club. Now you might think "Oh arrogant Wigan fan talking about the past", but taking a step back, you have to admit that past reputations are hard to shake off.
If Wire finish in the top 4 consistently for the next few years and make significant inroads in the playoffs then they will have taken Bradford's place in that traditional 'top 4' club. Under Tony Smith I personally don't think that that will be a problem.'"
Spot on sir. (Wire fan & Wigan fan in agreement shocker!)
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| I guess most of this irritating complaining is purely down to disappointment at not beating a weakened Leeds team. Well done to them and what a goal kicking show from Kevin Sinfield. We should try and sign him 
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| If the players are fully committeed and the rugby is entertaining what have we got to complain about?
Wembley last year - semi-final again this year and looking like a top four finish - some people are never satisfied!
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| And I will say it again and again
until we have a top class goal kicker and are beating the likes of Wigan Saints and Leeds 50% of the time we wont win a GF no matter how exciting and entertaining we are
We have had a good season so far and we could still win the GF but not without beating the top teams which have regularly failed to do
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| well said we lost to saints, wigan, leeds X" all on goal kicking, if we had a pat richards we'd of beat them alll.
only hull kr have outplayed us this season...
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| some people on here it was a result what could've gone either way and sinfield won it for leeds. don't forget we did have carvell and myler out and them losses start to show against top teams (especially carvell)
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| Quote mikey123="mikey123"some people on here it was a result what could've gone either way and sinfield won it for leeds. don't forget we did have carvell and myler out and them losses start to show against top teams (especially carvell)'"
Interesting to see Carvell, Myler and Clarke play in the academy game yet Carvell was fit enough to play a part in the Bradford game the week before. Hate to say it but our forwards looked like they were out of juice
long before the hooter went.
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| Quote wire2004="wire2004"Lets get this straight. We have 3 forums belittleing the team and their performance. The ratings point is really quiet sickening really...
Let me put this straight too everyone...
Wire and leeds put on a masterclass of rugby league yesterday. We witnessed 2 of the top 4 teams in superleague battle it out at full pace for 80 minutes.
Warrington Can Now be classed in the top 4 and I can Honnestly say that any one of the top 4 can beat any one on any given day in the top 4...
The new top 4 is warrington, saints, wigan and leeds...
The match yesterday could of gone anyway and we should be proud of the performance that was given yesterday.
Instead of belittleing the performance, saying that we are still not good enough, giving crap ratings on the players. Stand up and get behind your team...
I for one am proud of the performance yesterday on a game that could of gone either way, and that had entertainment and i was sad that we had too have a winner and loser. Because the game deserved a result for both teams.'"
wire2004 in something vaguely resembling an intelligent post shocker!*
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| Quote magic piano="magic piano"The problem is we are only guests in the Top 4 at the minute - so far this season, Wigan have beaten Leeds, Saints & Wire; Saints have beaten Wigan, Leeds & Wire; Leeds have beaten Wigan in the Cup & Wire twice. The same problem cost us the league in 94 - inability to beat the rest of the title challengers. Until such a time as we are able to beat as often as they beat us, not just compete with, the Big 4 we are not real contenders I'm afraid...'"
I remember when we always used to beat Wigan in the league in 80's, that never did anything for us trophy wise...
Wigan only lost twice in the league 1987 and both times it was to Warrington....that didnt mean anything as they then went on to beat us in the JPS final and the premiership final of the same year.....and they won their first league title for 27 years
granted to win superleague we are going to have to beat at least one of saints Wigan or Leeds....but that will be in knock out rugby and we havent done too bad in that recently....
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