I am not sure which Bobbie Goulding some people were watching - but the one I saw was a much better scrum half than Sean Long.



Sean was a player who for years relied on his foot speed to make him look special (which it did) but only years later did he become an organising scrum half.

Bobbie Goulding was that organising scrum half right from the get go - his kicking game and vision was at times without peer in this country. Alright we all know he p1ssed it all away with poor attitude and bad judgement, but so did George Best and is still probably the most gifted Britsh Footballer.



I would not complain about either player being picked in a top Saints side, especially as there is no criteria for why a player is picked as we have here.

If it is just the most gifted scrum half I would go with Gouldding, if it the best scrum half to have played for St. Helens then I would go with Long for his consistancy and longevity (but dont let this cloud your memories people as there are plenty of people on here who have been screaming for Longs head for years)



As for the Wingers - if we have to go with 2 wingers for me Albert has to be a shoe in, but I think many posters on here have been remembering Sullivan with rose covered keyboards, the guy was a liability under high balls, luckily it was Goulding that introduced this tactic to the British game and it wasnt as wide spread as it is now - or else I am afraid that he would be the Gardner/Meli/latest scapegoat of his time. He played on confidence more than almost any player I have ever seen and when his confidence was low you may have well played Stuart Evans on the wing.



Alan Hunte is a very good call for the other wing spot, when the 2 played together he was always - to my eyes - the better player.



But I would be tempted to take a leaf out of the Australian selectors handbook and pick a 3rd Centre on the wing, maybe Iro or Lyon or Gidley - how lucky have we been with centres over the years

Read the team above that statement, Martyn is in it!



I was stating that Martyn would be in that team ahead of Pryce because of his passing ability.

I used to hate it when Sully ran from the dummy half. He was the most hopeless dummy half runner I've seen. Always got hit for zero or less yards.



He WAS good at ghosting into midfield and coming onto a short ball. Couldn't understand why he didn't do it more often.

alot of aussies picked

1. Paul Wellens

2. Allan Hunte

3. Jamie Lyon

4. Paul Newlove

5. Anthony Sullivan

20. Tommy Martyn

7. Sean Long

8. James Graham

9. Keiron Cunningham

10. David Fairleigh

11. Chris Joynt

12. Lee Gilmour

13. Paul Sculthorpe



Subs



14. James Roby

15. Sonny Nickle

16. Fereti Tuilagi

17. Paul Anderson

1. Wellens



2. Albert

3. Lyon

4. Newlove

5. Sullivan



20. Martyn

7. Long



8. Fairleigh

9. Cunningham

10. Graham

11. Joynt

12. Gilmour

13. Sculthorpe



14. Roby

15. Perelini

16. Britt

17. Pryce



Apologies to Iro ; Gidley; Goulding; Tuilagi ; Wilkin ; and so many more .

1. Paul Wellens

2. Fereti Tuilagi

3. Jamie Lyon

4. Paul Newlove

5. Darren Albert

20. Tommy Martyn

7. Sean Long

8. Apollo Perelini

9. Keiron Cunningham

10. David Fairleigh

11. Chris Joynt

12. Jon Wilkin

13. Paul Sculthorpe



SUBS

14. James Graham

15. Darren Britt

16. Derek McVey

17. Matt Gidley

Second Row ?

Signed as a winger, moved to second row by Hanley, I believe.

I always hate it when people mention Derek McVey in such threads:



One, because it instantly gives ammunition to those who have slated the standards of superleague



Two, because the guy had about 10 good games and lives off a particularly good performance against Wigan



Three, because he was guilty of some of the most appalling errors that madfe Roy haggerty's performance against Wigan in 1989 Challenge Cup Final look good. Off load from 5 yards from your own line against Brisbane ring any bells. the Aussies practically fell over laughing at that blooper.



And finally because the guy was so good that he was signed by Brisbane, I mean St. George, I mean Parramatta... oh sorry, some team in the sticks.



Derek McVey - the Tony Yeboah of SuperLeague.

whaaaaat..no ricky bibey?...